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50's trad romanticists: They wanna take your popcorn and circuses too but they have some good points too!

Posted by nightsavior - March 2nd, 2019


50's Trad Romanticists: Still trying to take our popcorn and circuses!


Philosophy: Everything was perfect during the 1950's but the boomers ruined it.


Where we agree:


The 1950's was indeed a nice time. Employment was high and it seemed like families were more prone to stick together whether they were middle class,rich,or poor. Resources seemed more plentiful and the educational system actually taught real trades and real skills needed to survive in the real world. (Imagine that!)


Did the boomers "ruin utopia"?:


I'm not entirely sure but I know harmful ideologies like Marxism and "social justice" were introduced to the hippy "peace and love" movement at a time many kids were having their heads popped with experimental drugs and sex parties. Then again, many boomers later became "more conservative" as the left radicalized itself, moving goal posts several times as to what they actually stood for. As much as newer embittered generations whine about "boomers ruining everything" the boomers seemed to be victims themselves,unknowingly partaking in one giant social engineering experiment promoted by the CIA (The ones often introducing mind altering substances to the youth incognito) and other shadowy organizations.


True observations into the boomers would reveal only a few of them remained apart of the sex,drugs,and rock n roll counter culture but many more traded in their bell bottoms and tie-dyed t-shirts for blue collars and business suits. Like most generations, they had their indulgent "wild phase" as teens and young 20 somethings but became more frugal,responsible, and conscientious as adults.


Was Sex,drugs and rock n roll entirely "bad"? :


I confess I love much music from that era! Everything from Led Zeplin to The Beatles, Rolling Stones,Jethro Tull,Pink Floyd, and King Crimson. I don't always agree with "the message" in songs from the 60's and 70's (John Lennon's "Imagine" is well meaning but very naive and even a tad pretentious) but Rock N Roll of that flavor was a kindred spirit to my favorite musical genre of all time. (Heavy Metal) I tended to like the more melancholic and depressing yet at times cheerfully chaotic music about pot smoking wizards,road trips with friends,dealing with depression,feeling akin to a wayward outsider,adventuring into mystic forest groves,and making love. Despite being created at a time of radicals,not every song back then preached to you like some lunatic Marxist college professor. Many lyrics were simply about daily life, mind tripping, or having fun. Matter fact, very little of Rock N Roll is about "muh opresshuns" or "muh privilege". The closest you get to that is Jimmy Hendrix worrying about the fuzz taking his weed away and just wanting to be left alone! (Fair enough!)


As for the drugs? I'm very straight-edge but I try not to begrudge others for their vices if they can keep in control of themselves. Perhaps the only "good thing" that came from drugs was it broke down barriers between different people,allowing us to realize while we are unique we are also much the same. This probably sparked both the concepts of "free love" and "continued civil rights activism".


Trad romanticists may argue with me but I do believe some good came out of both these things. Admittedly some civil rights put into place were just common sense and the free love movement finally made us confront the fact "being gay" was an actual thing. Perhaps it was about time we realized "not everyone" fit the "traditional 50's family mold" and not everyone was a golly gee willickers hetero normie. Sadly practices like "swinging" (multiple lovers) would also spiral into the AIDs epidemic later on which REALLY exploded onto the scene during the 80's. (Despite attempts to subvert it and cover it up. The Reagan administration did not exactly do a "good job" on this particular issue.)


Yeah, I get some folks think that AIDs is God punishing homosexuals but to me it's just one of many spread epidemics we've had to deal with and overcome. Additionally some of the worst viruses and diseases ever spread were from migration,interacting with certain animals,mold in our grains,questionable drinking water,insect bites,or unsanitary working conditions,not from men having sex with other men. It's just we came up with cures for those thus we don't obsess about them as much anymore. Eventually AIDs will be stopped with just another vaccination shot.


Certainly gayness does not create offspring to further propagate our species yet there are times the world is over populated and does not need more children. Maybe increased homosexuality is just nature's way of dealing with civilizations that have exceeded a certain number and are using up too many natural resources. Regardless I don't think anyone chooses gayness anymore than I chose to be straight. I simply knew I was attracted to girls during puberty and that was it. It's the same for gay people except they feel that way towards the same gender. ("True" gays anyway. There are also "trenders" who pretend to be gay,bi,or trans just for sympathy points or to feel special. Yeah,those idiots can fuck right off!)


The biggest problem I see with all this was it promoted promiscuity. You would think as a pervert I'd "love" a freer attitude concerning sex but no, I did not want it to come at the expense of the family unit nor for men and women to end up hating each other, living their lives as lonely spinsters and hermits once they hit the wall. People began chasing "the here and the now" for that exciting dopamine rush but became afraid to commit to anything long term. Worse, feminists turned the family courts against men as divorce became an almost en vogue (popular) thing to do....


The Jew factor


It is historically documented some of the Jews we saved during World-War 2 were from the Frankfurt school of Marxism and rather than being "entirely grateful" to us they did in fact disagree with the American way of life thus tried to reshape our culture thru our media, universities, and entertainment. In addition George Soros has been proven to push his globalist agenda whilst hiring terrorist cells of activists to attempt to turn 1st and 2nd world societies into third world hovels via suicidal "open borders" policies. No, I'm not "racist" but I'm a realist who understands certain cultures are too radically different to get along and that a flood of unchecked and non-vetted immigrants would not be good for our economy or our way of life. (Being a strain on our limited resources to boot)


Does this mean "all Jews" are evil? No, of course not! I'd say it's just a group of wealthy opulent Jewish families with control over influential banks and a portion of the mainstream media that are the problem but there are Jews outside that den of inequity that honestly just want to live and have no rat in that race. I find propaganda that paints all Jews as entirely "evil" just as foolhardy and preposterous as propaganda that paints all Jews as entirely "good".


The pending questions seems to be if everything from the 60's onward was some sort of shekel-merchant construct designed specifically to subjugate and destroy the goy! Personally I don't think so. Teenagers "always" rebel and people want to have fun. Humans are decadent by design. I'm sure certain "kosher ventures into business" took advantage of this but simultaneously I believe White nationalists give Jews way too much credit for rerouting our culture as if every last little detail,reference, and decision is Jew approved. Eventually you have to ask yourself why a people so good at making and managing money would prefer Marxism over capitalism in the first place. (Beyond a few straggling outsiders who romanticized Karl Marx for whatever reason.)


In the end?


Half the civil rights enacted were much needed reforms and the "purple haze dayz" inspired many memorable songs,pieces of literature,art,and fun events whilst helping bring us together but simultaneously we saw an erosion of family values,corrupt attempts at social engineering slipping into our college universities, and the further stirrings of the gender wars.


The thing that grinds my gears about the Trad Romanticist movement is while you can agree with them on many of these points they also simultaneously come off as those "anti-fun" Satanic Panic Evangelicals who somehow believe "anything" from this era is some sort of Marxist or Zionist Jew construct and utterly evil by design. Aka yes, these assholes are after your video-games,hentai,music,and porn! They just have "different reasons" for wanting to censor your entertainment compared to the nutty anti-Trump regressive lefties!


The truth: Not everyone can afford that nostalgic 1950's lifestyle:


I don't want to be a gloomy gus but we can never go back to the 1950's, at least not right away. the 1950's was a time when one man's salary and the proper budget strategies could effectively pay for a two story house,automobile,and a nice yard. Remember, when women hit the work force en mass "everyone" got a pay cut. Additionally whereas old companies were somehow beholden to value their employees and to keep them on until they received their benefits and retirement, today's mega corporations are more than happy to let employees go at a lightning fast rate just to cut edges and save their own money. Additionally today's public education system has failed our youth,more concerned with indoctrinating them to be leftist ideologues than to actually teach them valuable lessons. This means when they hit the work force they are lacking in experience which is why some businesses hire other people overseas.


Trad romanticists like to post things like "You should get married" or "Pull yourself up by the bootstraps and get a higher paying job!" but the truth is even if you do these things you are not playing by the rules of 1950's America anymore. Even if your wife claims to be a "good christian woman and a house-wife" she can still divorce you without any risk to herself. If anything, she could gain "more" monetarily from such a betrayal. Want a nice home "without" your wife or gf pulling in their own income? Get ready to work two or three jobs knowing the harsh reality you could be laid off from any one of them at any moment! Hey, some guys can do that but of my friends I know who do, they don't have time for much else.


Of course this could be gradually turned around. New rules could be put in place to penalize couples who divorce over petty reasons and even petty lawyers who encourage break ups merely for their own financial gain. New laws could be enacted to ensure teachers teach facts "objectively"and that any extremism encouraged by "a mentor of the youth" to create radicals with Anti-American sentiments will be immediately snuffed out and the person espousing those harmful ideals will be fired on the spot. Additionally we need to declare a tech war on silicon valley as since they create most of the social applications we use on the internet they also get to infringe upon our free speech and halt our flow of income if they put pressure on payment processors and advertisers. (Perhaps it's time the south had its' own silicon valley so to speak.) This is "a lot" that needs to be fixed and Gen Z may very well be middle aged or be seniors before it all comes together.


"Regardless" in the meantime most of us cannot afford a nice house and many reputation-concious women are not willing to marry men who are disabled or who live on a lower income. Wonderful exceptions to that general consensus exist "but" let's be pragmatic. Many women today want it all and are hypagamous. That means if they can swing over to the next guy who has more money and who is better looking they probably will if given the chance! Sorry, but most intelligent men are not going to "break their backs" and put all their eggs in one basket if they get an unfair deal and are the ones taking all the risks. Even "wealth" does not protect men from divorce court and losing their children. If rich chads are not bullet-proof you better believe the average joe is not either!


My point?


Learn from this Gen Z! Don't take away the popcorn and circuses from those of us who for whatever reason have to live on the abnormal fringes. The left wants to put burkas on my hawt video game women "because muh sexism". Meanwhile certain people on the right argue "drawn lolis" and certain kinds of entertainment encourage degeneracy though it has been proven in constant studies having access to "fantasy escapism" be it violent or pornographic decreases overall criminal activity. Hey, I'm with ya on everything else but I'm SICK AND TIRED of idiots from both political aisles trying to take away my shit! "What about the children" you say?! Fine,focus on stopping REAL child predators and REAL child grooming gangs instead of banning friggin anime or any fiction involving a teen/child under the age of 18. Tackle the "real issues" instead of chasing the specter of harmless imaginary material you just happen not to like! Don't become the regressive morons you meme relentlessly,capache?


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